Improving a system and system jumping

Introduction

As a trader, everyone goes through the urge (multiple times) of improving themselves and more importantly, to improve the trading idea/strategy/mechanical system they trade.

Conventionally speaking, new traders and some experienced traders go through these thoughts at least few times in their trading career (however short that maybe 🙂 ) –

1. “I already have a trading system in place but i seem to get attracted towards other systems i see in social media/online
2. “I went through an elongated time/points drawdown and i think is should change my system to keep drawdown to the minimum
3. “This quarter was not as good as my previous quarters and i picked up 3 great ideas(based on this year’s market movement – Recency bias in play here) which i would implement from next trading day”

This begets an inevitable question in a trader’s mind – improving(adding/modifying or creating a new one) one’s parameters is good right? But, is it not system jumping? This is an interesting question as system jumping is a topic that flash across every new/experienced trader’s mind sooner or later

Is Improving a system bad?

We all have read somewhere that ‘system jumping’ is bad 100 times from various resources. So, one should never try to better his own system?

1. Typically, when we are bombarded with new ideas/information about trading via social media/books/seminars, 2 schools of thoughts can arise —

A) If we start implementing ideas we see in a public domain/book or elsewhere, does it not amount to system jumping? If not, then what is system jumping?

B) What is wrong in improving my Risk:Reward/win ratio or other parameters (if i can)?

If we look into point A, we will understand that there is no definite answer for this dilemma. The answer lies in the belief we have about trading. As we have heard enough about ‘not jumping like a monkey from 1 tree to another’, we would have ingrained ‘system hopping’ is bad ?

And it is. Our minds habitually want to get away from discomfort/uncertainty. Human beings love certainty and the inherent nature of trading is full of uncertainties. In the pursuit of seeking certainty, folks jump from system 1 to system 2 seeking certainty. It is searching for a cotton candy seller in thunderstorm. Unless we relish the uncertainties that is inherent to trading, this profession would make us regret why did we ever come into it.

With my limited experience in the markets, i can say with a reasonable certainty that a new trader stands absolutely no chance against the deluge of info (promising the ‘holy grail’ system) that flows around everyday. He is bound to look for greener pasture.

I had written a blogpost on ‘Social media and its impact on the mindset of a trader’ sometime ago. Here is the blogpost

Social media and its impact on the mindset of a trader

2. When we are bombarded with these kind of information, it would be natural to think that the system we have (35% WR with 1:3.5RR) is the reason behind not making money in the markets. Nothing could be further from the truth. Think about it for a second.

If we look at point2, it is actually a valid thought. After all, we constantly endeavor to drive a better car, live in a better house, wear better clothes, eat better food. So, why not having something better than what we already have? Why trading system should be an exception? Great question.

Truth – Sticking to a system is much more difficult than jumping systems

Guess what – here are the real questions –

When do we stop? When we hit 80-90% winning system? or when we start making money?

Traders do system jumping as they strongly believe that ‘poor system’ is the reason for them to not make money in the markets.

a) Please understand that once we start to make money in our system (real money and not backtested excel money), that thought should dissipate slowly. Loitering on other people systems (available online and in forums) does not help the cause as well.

b) When we are in the process of building a system, any idea is worth looking into it. One can get inspired/derive ideas from other’s system – no issues with it. But. it is imperative that we understand the subtle difference between building a system based on a idea and jumping system because your social media hero made crores this year with his system.

c) I also know few traders who keep on testing systems (not to deploy more non-correlated systems for diversity but to jump the existing one – i have a differing thought on diversifying but thats for another day).

d) Unless we live in an isolated environment(without family/friends), this backtesting/improving system idea should stop somewhere (or it would be forcibly stopped by your family/spouse ? ) Trying new ideas forever would definitely rob us of the time we could spend with them.

e) This leads us to the most basic question of all – why did we come into this trading profession?

This is a question that needs to be asked to oneself in frequent interval. It is very easy to get lost in the information overload world we live in.

f) In my opinion, the improvement should happen in the trading size and it should happen in the execution (and not in the existing trading system with a positive expectancy). This thought process is very crucial.

Conclusion

There is not much difference between a system with 50% winrate and a system with 40% winrate (assuming RR/ number of trades are equal and systems have a positive edge/makes money in the long run).

Once we settle down, money management can fill the gap between these two systems nicely and over a period of 10 yrs, both these systems could have given a small fortune to a trader who respects risk. One can learn 100 books about psychology but nothing can beat the experiential learning aspects of handling ourselves when we traverse through the treacherous waters of trading ?

After all, your sub-conscious knows that you, yourself, cannot be trusted after breaking so many plans and giving up on so many goals.

Kindly sit on this thread (content) for a while. This will make lot of sense once we understand the mental framework behind this phenomenon.

Happy trading all !!


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Trading plan and why we dont follow it?

“By failing to prepare, you prepare to fail” – Benjamin Franklin
“Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend 1st four sharpening the axe” – Abraham Lincoln

We all know the importance of Trading plan and many of us already have a well-defined trading plan. But, why do we fail to follow it? Have you ever thought about it?

This is a quick blogpost elucidating the reasons behind that phenomenon.

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Price Action Based + System Trading Webinar

Introduction

As many of you know, I have been trading just the price (aka price action trading) for the last 17+ years.

In this one day webinar, I will cover Structural pivots(price action concept I have been trading for the last 15 years now), Positional/Intraday trading (any underlying instrument that moves), Compounding a small account, Backtesting, Money management and Psychology

Webinar Agenda and participants feedback

Please click on One day webinar Agenda for complete details on agenda.

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Fees and Timings

Date: xxx

Fees : xxx

Webinar Timings : 9:30AM – 5:00PM

Morning break – 11:00AM to 11:15AM
Lunch Break: 01:00PM to 02:00PM
Evening break: 04:00 to 04:15PM

Payment details

**REGISTRATIONS CLOSED**

Location

Online

Additional perks of attending the webinar

Telegram support group for the attendees (7 days duration) to clear out webinar-related doubts via Daily videos.

Important points before making the payment

1. Government ID proof(Driving license, PAN or Aadhaar) of your current country of residence is **MANDATORY** for registering for the webinar. If you are not willing to share your ID, please don’t pay for the webinar as you will not be allowed to participate in the webinar (Money will be refunded back to you within 3 days after your payment)

A Google registration form will be sent (as a reply to your payment screenshot email) after your payment, and Govt ID should be uploaded in that form.

2. Access to the webinar recording + DailyVideos will be granted for 7 days post-webinar. (On xxx, all video access will be revoked)

3. Irrespective of the reason, no refund will be given for not showing up, and if there is a technical snag during the webinar, we will use another weekend to compensate for the lost time. Kindly note that there will be NO refunds.

4. As a lot of time gets wasted by folks interrupting unnecessarily, I have pre-recorded what I wanted to cover, constituting 50-60% of the webinar. The remaining time will be utilized to answer questions live. I get around 150+ Qs in a webinar typically. This is a WIN-WIN situation as I could cover what I want to share with the participants in a structured way & participants get the maximum out of the webinar.

5. I am not a systems seller and not selling a readymade intraday/positional system. I will give you a sample system based on structural pivots to show how to backtest manually using structural pivots.
If you are looking for a readymade system with buy/sell triggers, my webinar will not suit you – please don’t join.

6. Price action concept part makes up 20% of the webinar time. Backtesting, money management(MM) and trading psychology comprise the remaining 80%.

Contact details

If you have further questions, please email me at xxx or WhatsApp at xxx


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Get comfortable being wrong

Human nature is to be right all the time. Nobody likes to be wrong even in petty/useless arguments. This particular thought process is one of the primary reasons for many opting for methods that shows high winning percentage with abysmal Risk:Reward ratio. Many of the world’s renowned traders are trend followers and trend following usually delivers something that human brain is not used to – More losers than winners with superior Risk:Reward ratio. » More »


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Twitter poll on expectancy

Trading Journal

I had put a poll on twitter yesterday with options to choose from various combinations of Winrate and Risk:Reward(RR) » More »


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Law of Large numbers and its implication in Trading

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Trading Q&A Audio/Video 2

Audio/Video response to a set of questions i received in a private facebook group

Here is the A/V link:


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Trading journal – why should a trader maintain it

Introduction

Journaling our trades or in rudimentary terms, record-keeping is simply recording the trades with different set of values but it is not as simple as that. Now, I can hear some voices – ‘What is the big deal about journaling my trades? I have the best method in the world which is raking in 10% profits per week and so, I don’t need them” Fair enough. Happy for you!! » More »


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Trading Q&A Audio/Video 1

Audio/Video response to the tweet posted on April 26th 2018

https://twitter.com/madan_kumar/status/989432327846576128 » More »


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Bouncing back slowly but steadily

Mentoring

A trader asked me a question about how to develop the discipline in following his trading plan. Am sure many of us can relate to the questioner’s mindset in ‘trying to recover the losses as quickly as possible’. It is clearly evident that the trader does not believe in bouncing back slowly. He is also well aware of the risks involved in trading stock futures on result days but he could not control the urge to put on a trade. » More »


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